tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-468223150447785936.post2267376026832097908..comments2023-11-05T03:56:08.325-08:00Comments on Murrmurrs: Snowcone BoyMurr Brewsterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03422638986410813520noreply@blogger.comBlogger28125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-468223150447785936.post-29950902989406500532011-04-05T15:34:27.423-07:002011-04-05T15:34:27.423-07:00Grrrr---very frustrated. About 10 comments back, ...Grrrr---very frustrated. About 10 comments back, I wrote a stunningly erudite comment full of pith and wisdom. Blogger decided to "time out"! What's with that? I could have written a comment full of piss and vinegar.<br>Anyway--time out is apropos the topic at hand.<br>A few more times on a time out chair, or corner, or wherever for snowcone boy and his ilk.<br>Or better yet, KGMomhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05165941950953938943noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-468223150447785936.post-43456597553633966642011-04-05T15:34:27.172-07:002011-04-05T15:34:27.172-07:00Sometimes you have to ruin your kid's day. The...Sometimes you have to ruin your kid's day. There really is no reasoning with a two-year-old who is falling apart because she wants to wear satin ballet slippers in the snow. It's an utter waste of time to give her choices. You say no, ignore the tantrum, and get on with your life. Where it gets interesting, for me, is in the 10-14 range (why, that's where we are right now!). I'veJulie Zickefoosehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06654698829603424649noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-468223150447785936.post-67449700701138829392011-04-05T15:34:26.776-07:002011-04-05T15:34:26.776-07:00The best piece of advice I ever got was from the d...The best piece of advice I ever got was from the director of our divine little pre-school. She said, "Never forget that you are the mom and you are bigger than they are." It's served me well through the years. <br><br>Like the time my daughter decided she did NOT want to go inside and take a nap, so she took off running down the sidewalk. I don't know what she thought would hokgardnerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09971689914882302078noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-468223150447785936.post-25042019585395080562011-04-05T15:34:26.502-07:002011-04-05T15:34:26.502-07:00Catbird wraps it up with the simple, workable rule...Catbird wraps it up with the simple, workable rule!<br><br>I'm not necessarily advocating spanking. I have a feeling that some things work better with some kids and other things work better with others. My sister didn't get spanked once, so I don't think my parents were too reckless. I expect it was just the easiest, most readily understood thing they could do with me. I was Murr Brewsterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03422638986410813520noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-468223150447785936.post-50980644377273332012010-07-29T07:45:10.437-07:002010-07-29T07:45:10.437-07:00Sadly, what I'm observing is many parents simp...Sadly, what I'm observing is many parents simply don't want to spend time with their kids.Little darlings are signed up for every club,class,"playtime"or sport that is even marginally appropriate,then Mom and Dad just don't know what to do with them!Having children should be a privilege with attendant respondsibilites,not an ego trip,IMO.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-468223150447785936.post-17722070541097888022010-07-23T22:20:32.912-07:002010-07-23T22:20:32.912-07:00Catbird wraps it up with the simple, workable rule...Catbird wraps it up with the simple, workable rule!<br /><br />I'm not necessarily advocating spanking. I have a feeling that some things work better with some kids and other things work better with others. My sister didn't get spanked once, so I don't think my parents were too reckless. I expect it was just the easiest, most readily understood thing they could do with me. I was Murr Brewsterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03422638986410813520noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-468223150447785936.post-82009424500531205052010-07-23T21:49:31.534-07:002010-07-23T21:49:31.534-07:00I think whoever has the biggest head should get to...I think whoever has the biggest head should get to make the rules -- as long as none of the kids is macrocephalic.Catbirdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08817359455864023690noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-468223150447785936.post-6366662334967147522010-07-23T04:19:43.072-07:002010-07-23T04:19:43.072-07:00On a serious note: A simple explanation for workin...On a serious note: A simple explanation for working with kids for me is "contingency management." Anything they want requires first that I get something I want from them. "If you want this, first you must do this..." The world works this way and it is an easy lesson to teach and to apply.pineyflatwoodsgirlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15128521749840488284noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-468223150447785936.post-2555986670237037482010-07-22T20:32:46.053-07:002010-07-22T20:32:46.053-07:00Just Because I Said So is a perfectly fine answer ...Just Because I Said So is a perfectly fine answer for a parent. But I'm not a fan of spanking, even though I did it myself a few times. BTW, cute little babies? A total scam. Every child is out to test you to your everlastin' limits. They will show no mercy.Dreamfarm Girlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08494214244290730058noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-468223150447785936.post-26798822865370501172010-07-22T13:53:27.255-07:002010-07-22T13:53:27.255-07:00No time to say something thoughtful, rather than s...No time to say something thoughtful, rather than snippy, so I shouldn't have said anything at all.<br /><br />I agree wholeheartedly that parents who abdicate their authority are doing a shitty job. You have to be the boss, that has to be perfectly clear, and you have to be willing to take the shit for it. Your rules have to be unmistakable and sensible and you have to behave as if breaking Dalehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14523194846272870013noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-468223150447785936.post-9729193993052885082010-07-22T11:56:40.463-07:002010-07-22T11:56:40.463-07:00This kind of parenting fits right in with the &quo...This kind of parenting fits right in with the "no-failure" culture, in which even the last-place kid gets a trophy and no child ever has to repeat a grade. After all, we can't bruise the little darlings' egos, can we?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-468223150447785936.post-63869536606891729282010-07-22T08:47:06.771-07:002010-07-22T08:47:06.771-07:00Didn't raise my kids that way! And they have ...Didn't raise my kids that way! And they have turned out to be capable adults! When they were old enough for a small choice, they were given a chance to make that choice (quickly!) - any haggling and we were outta there! Driving to school they were allowed to alternate days riding "shotgun" (I used to think it would be neat for cars to have 2 front seats to alleviate the "debwardarthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05225105239355671724noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-468223150447785936.post-14529429406867263742010-07-21T19:49:54.733-07:002010-07-21T19:49:54.733-07:00Sometimes you have to ruin your kid's day. The...Sometimes you have to ruin your kid's day. There really is no reasoning with a two-year-old who is falling apart because she wants to wear satin ballet slippers in the snow. It's an utter waste of time to give her choices. You say no, ignore the tantrum, and get on with your life. Where it gets interesting, for me, is in the 10-14 range (why, that's where we are right now!). I'veJulie Zickefoosehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06654698829603424649noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-468223150447785936.post-64165479478567825332010-07-21T19:47:31.971-07:002010-07-21T19:47:31.971-07:00That kid has already learned he doesn't have t...That kid has already learned he doesn't have to do anything to get rewarded. He has a future as a politician!pineyflatwoodsgirlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15128521749840488284noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-468223150447785936.post-24224269616620114042010-07-21T18:25:06.246-07:002010-07-21T18:25:06.246-07:00Grrrr---very frustrated. About 10 comments back, ...Grrrr---very frustrated. About 10 comments back, I wrote a stunningly erudite comment full of pith and wisdom. Blogger decided to "time out"! What's with that? I could have written a comment full of piss and vinegar.<br />Anyway--time out is apropos the topic at hand.<br />A few more times on a time out chair, or corner, or wherever for snowcone boy and his ilk.<br />Or better KGMomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05165941950953938943noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-468223150447785936.post-72755590301828175022010-07-21T17:24:06.605-07:002010-07-21T17:24:06.605-07:00We watch our kids "negotiate" with our g...We watch our kids "negotiate" with our grandkids; it isn't quite the methodology we used raising them. I recall telling them more than once when they were growing up that "being in a family is NOT a Democracy".<br /><br />One incident both my daughter remember to this day: Driving up the freeway one hot day with all the windows open, my two girls were fighting over some Robert the Skeptichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10863488312604865183noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-468223150447785936.post-19620531080524197432010-07-21T15:10:53.597-07:002010-07-21T15:10:53.597-07:00I was spanked as a child. I'm perfectly normal...I was spanked as a child. I'm perfectly normal. I did not spank my daughter, some days I'm very sorry for that oversight! I did not however, negotiate with the little terrorist, it was my way or the highway darlin, and I will walk away and leave you for the gypsies!Carolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16039261743881342348noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-468223150447785936.post-65677762046776927922010-07-21T14:17:14.092-07:002010-07-21T14:17:14.092-07:00We had five children, all in the space of three ye...We had five children, all in the space of three years (having twins helped the numbers increase rather quickly -- but still). We had a simple rule: obey us. <br /><br />As a result, we could take them anywhere, and they were almost always happy and laughing. <br /><br />It's not rocket science, and the new parenting is simply nuts.Frank Lee MeiDerehttp://probablydontlikeyou.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-468223150447785936.post-18946071317182018892010-07-21T12:33:49.259-07:002010-07-21T12:33:49.259-07:00I was a great parent before I had kids.I was a great parent before I had kids.Dalehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14523194846272870013noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-468223150447785936.post-83784316479765544662010-07-21T10:30:58.027-07:002010-07-21T10:30:58.027-07:00Choices, schmoices! I wish I had choices!Choices, schmoices! I wish I had choices!Bruce Mohnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00170656188990284530noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-468223150447785936.post-86332868683038793582010-07-21T10:29:59.923-07:002010-07-21T10:29:59.923-07:00Wow, now I understand what my supervisor and my bo...Wow, now I understand what my supervisor and my boss have been trying to pound into my head for the last five years...<br /><br />And I'm dealing with college students, who presumably have already been civilized by their parents.<br /><br />(He walks away, giggling madly)Bruce Mohnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00170656188990284530noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-468223150447785936.post-49827764568052300052010-07-21T10:14:50.646-07:002010-07-21T10:14:50.646-07:00My answer would have been "if the sno-cone st...My answer would have been "if the sno-cone stand is here next time and you've brought some money and you're willing to share with everyone, sure!"<br /><br />I worked in a small toy store for many years. So many memories of terrible parenting I wish I could erase from my brain!Kathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18207121540248325766noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-468223150447785936.post-49452210036379157592010-07-21T09:57:57.604-07:002010-07-21T09:57:57.604-07:00There you go, SubCo--everyone's happier now. ...There you go, SubCo--everyone's happier now. I'm in awe of the patience and gentleness I see in the young parents around here. But I don't see that the children are actually any happier. I was lucky. Nothing confusing: I knew exactly what was expected of me, and never once doubted that my parents loved me.<br /><br />Thanks, mean mom ToyLady!<br /><br />I wonder how kids are Murr Brewsterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03422638986410813520noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-468223150447785936.post-80122554490910394342010-07-21T08:24:41.883-07:002010-07-21T08:24:41.883-07:00The best piece of advice I ever got was from the d...The best piece of advice I ever got was from the director of our divine little pre-school. She said, "Never forget that you are the mom and you are bigger than they are." It's served me well through the years. <br /><br />Like the time my daughter decided she did NOT want to go inside and take a nap, so she took off running down the sidewalk. I don't know what she thought would hokgardnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09971689914882302078noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-468223150447785936.post-89320653130438887282010-07-21T04:36:54.939-07:002010-07-21T04:36:54.939-07:00See, the thing mom needs to do is to stir up a lit...See, the thing mom needs to do is to stir up a little dissent among the ranks, right there.<br /><br />"Yessirree, kids, we're ALL going home now, because SNOWCONE BOY had to go and ruin swimming for EVERYONE. We can come back TWO HOURS after lunch. MAYBE. Thank you Snowcone Boy!"<br /><br />That is a life lesson for the boy. Ha.<br /><br />And mom could maybe try being a parentToyLadyhttp://darksideofthefridge.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.com